Saturday, March 5, 2016

Prunus #29 what kind?

This is a very old collected tree that I have acquired in Japan. It may also come from Korea. They sold it to me as Prunus ume. But looking at the tree now I don't think it is P. ume. The blossoms appear three weeks later, they are simple, not quite white and they come together with foliage which is a bit yellow green. Not that I really mind, but I would like to know what species it could be. Some experts around?


Walter Pall said...

Now we got it. It's a Fuji chery, Prunus incisa, variety Kojo no mai. This is called Swarm Intelligence.

Gary Swiech said...

Hi Walter.
I'm glad someone identified the Cherry Tree.
There's over 300 species of Oriental cherries, since they hybridize so easily.

I really think that variety makes a wonderful bonsai and thanks for the images of your
old one.

I found this:

Tom B said...

Hi Walter,

I am far from an expert, but are you sure about the identification as Fuji cherry?

Neither the flowers nor the leaves look correct for that. In my experience Fuji cherry flowers are more elongated and pendulous, with shorter stamens. The leaves are smaller, less pointed, and more serrated at the edge. The scent is also much fainter than mume.

On the other hand, I have a Prunus mume growing in my garden, a plain variety grown from a seedling, that looks very much like this. It flowers later than one would expect - in fact, the first flower bud is opening today - at the same time as the leaf buds are opening. This tree also retains some of its leaves over the winter.

The behaviour is different to another Mume (an 'Omoi-no-mama' cultivar I think) that I have growing in another part of my garden. That one flowers on bare wood before the leaves as you would expect (the last remaining flower is about to drop off today, and leaves have not begun to open yet).

If this is a wild collected tree, I am wondering whether what you are seeing (as am I) is typical of the wild Prunus mume, and that is why it is different from the cultivated varieties we normally see?

Whatever it is that you have, I think I have the same thing based on your pictures and description here. I am sure that what I have is not a Prunus incisa Kojo no mai, because I have grown those and they are very different. It was sold to me as Prunus mume, by a dealer who also sold me other more normal mume. I'm curious about the identification of your tree, because I would like to know more about my own, and why it is different in some ways to other Prunus mume I have had.

In any case, your tree is terrific, whatever it is.

Tom B

Walter Pall said...


thanks for the input- I will research further.