Two elms, Ulmus glabra

These twa are in development since about 15 years. One would ask why they are not much better then after all that time. Well, these are Ulmus glabra, the European elm with the large foliage. This species is rare now and as bonsai it is unheard of. I find them very difficult despite their habit to grow vigorously. We'll see whether I manage to get these to to look decent one day.